Do you think the Great Pyramids were made by Aliens?

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Do you think the Great Pyramids were made by Aliens?

Postby gianni » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:57 am

If you would roll a 20 ton rock on 5 trees, The tree would be too worn down and awkward to haul another, so these logs would be replaced every Stone. Due to the fact there are over 100,000 stones that make up the pyramid, you would need an excess of a half million trees.. If you would roll a 20 ton rock on 5 trees, The tree would be too worn down and awkward to haul another, so these logs would be replaced every Stone. Due to the fact there are over 100,000 stones that make up the pyramid, you would need an excess of a half million trees.. If it took 10,000 workers per month over a 20 year span to build the Pyramid like experts suggest, There wouldn't be enough people in a 500 mile radius to make this possible.Actually ancient Egyptian writing often talk of beings from the sky, the sky opening and bright lights coming down to teach them technology and give them wisdom. Many pictures and symbols resemble ufo's and aliens. POSSIBLY aliens built the Great Pyramid. And these solid long lasting construction techniques were adopted by the Egyptians.

So, what now? Can you beat around that bush? Do you believe me now or are you going to stay closed minded ans stubborn and not see the evidence that is so obsesses before you?
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Postby thunder35 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:57 am

If you would roll a 20 ton rock on 5 trees, The tree would be too worn down and awkward to haul another, so these logs would be replaced every Stone. Due to the fact there are over 100,000 stones that make up the pyramid, you would need an excess of a half million trees.. If you would roll a 20 ton rock on 5 trees, The tree would be too worn down and awkward to haul another, so these logs would be replaced every Stone. Due to the fact there are over 100,000 stones that make up the pyramid, you would need an excess of a half million trees.. If it took 10,000 workers per month over a 20 year span to build the Pyramid like experts suggest, There wouldn't be enough people in a 500 mile radius to make this possible.Actually ancient Egyptian writing often talk of beings from the sky, the sky opening and bright lights coming down to teach them technology and give them wisdom. Many pictures and symbols resemble ufo's and aliens. POSSIBLY aliens built the Great Pyramid. And these solid long lasting construction techniques were adopted by the Egyptians.

So, what now? Can you beat around that bush? Do you believe me now or are you going to stay closed minded ans stubborn and not see the evidence that is so obsesses before you?
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Postby mead » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:58 am

No I don't believe aliens came to Earth and built the Pyramids. I don't even believe aliens have visited Earth, and you are not convincing me otherwise.

I really don't understand why people doubt the intelligence of humans 4,000 years ago. Humans built many amazing builds 4,000 years ago.

I wonder if in 4,000 years from now people will wonder if aliens built us buildings or structures, such as Great Wall of China, Hoover Dam, Mount Rushmore, ect. because their technically will be so advance they will laugh at ours.
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Postby oxnatun » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:16 am

no
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Postby shauden » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:18 am

Ancient civilizations could do lots of things that we cannot explain. Not everything ever learned is preserved. Complex feats of engineering, advanced surgical techniques, and sophisticated irrigation systems were all in use in ancient times. A lot of early technologies were lost or forgotten due to war or famine and lack of education. Do you know how to build a television set, or a suspension bridge or make modern steel? I don't either. Modern technology is dependent on experts, and if something were to happen to the experts, it would be lost, and people four thousand years from now might be wondering if aliens helped us build skyscrapers or iPods.

Ancient civilizations were probably much more advanced than is commonly realized. The pyramids are obvious because they still stand, but lots of other achievements disappear over time.

Edit: I've never read it but The Ancient Engineers by L. Sprague De Camp is supposed to be an excellent book on the subject. I also recommend The Discoverers by Daniel Boorstin. That I've read at least in part and it is a fascinating look not only at architecture and engineering, but also at clocks, medicine, and early studies of human anatomy.
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Postby nathraichean » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:29 am

I am "close-minded" about accepting absurd "gao pi" as the truth. Being "open-minded" is not being "gullible", but you believe these ideas are synonymous. Transforming gullibility into being open-minded is a common ploy of frauds, but only quite gullible people are deceived by it. It has been demonstrated that Egyptians made the pyramids in Egypt, but some die-hard believers in ridiculous "gao pi" refuse to accept the truth. I have seen real evidence that Egyptians made the Egyptian pyramids, but there is only fake data saying ETs made the pyramids. The last time I rolled a 20 ton stone, I was able to use the tree rollers again, and why limit it to five rollers? Your figures are all quite dubious. You mindlessly repeat "gao pi" Erich Van Daniken wrote, and he is well-known as a fraud who was in prison several times for taking money that did not belong to him, since he was age 15. Many ancient people wrote about gods, not ETs, and NO pictures and symbols really represent UFOs or ETs. It is quite impossible that ETs built anything on our planet, because none have ever been here. You need to study astronomy and physics, rather than silly hoaxes created by unprincipled frauds. It would take our best rockets 7200 years to go to the nearest planet outside our solar system, and no creatures can ever do it in less than 210 years scientists calculate. The Theory of Relativity show that a spaceship's mass increases at an accelerating rate until it becomes infinite at the speed of light, so no ship can ever travel near the speed of light. Distances between stars are vast, and it is impossible to make trips between them in less than centuries. "So what now? How can you beat around that bush? Do you believe me now, or are you going to stay close-minded and stubborn and not see the evidence that is so obvious before you?" You have no real evidence, but I have much, so I win this battle of wits easily. People who know real science, e.g. I do that, easily win against gullible people who blindly believe in amateurish hoaxes, e.g. you. Using websites that contain only prepostrous "gao pi" does not prove your point. Look further, and you can find more that refute this inane drivel. EDIT: THIS TROLL SENT ME A DUMB HATEFUL E-MAIL THAT PROVES HE IS RANTING HERE, SO I AM REPORTING HIM. HE MIGHT HAVE SENT MORE OF HIS SILLY E-MAILS. HE DOES NOT WANT AN ANSWER BUT AGREEMENT WITH HIS LAUGHABLE MINDLESS BELIEF IN A CRUDE HOAX. HE IS IN VIOLATION.
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Postby schyler » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:38 am

I am "close-minded" about accepting absurd "gao pi" as the truth. Being "open-minded" is not being "gullible", but you believe these ideas are synonymous. Transforming gullibility into being open-minded is a common ploy of frauds, but only quite gullible people are deceived by it. It has been demonstrated that Egyptians made the pyramids in Egypt, but some die-hard believers in ridiculous "gao pi" refuse to accept the truth. I have seen real evidence that Egyptians made the Egyptian pyramids, but there is only fake data saying ETs made the pyramids. The last time I rolled a 20 ton stone, I was able to use the tree rollers again, and why limit it to five rollers? Your figures are all quite dubious. You mindlessly repeat "gao pi" Erich Van Daniken wrote, and he is well-known as a fraud who was in prison several times for taking money that did not belong to him, since he was age 15. Many ancient people wrote about gods, not ETs, and NO pictures and symbols really represent UFOs or ETs. It is quite impossible that ETs built anything on our planet, because none have ever been here. You need to study astronomy and physics, rather than silly hoaxes created by unprincipled frauds. It would take our best rockets 7200 years to go to the nearest planet outside our solar system, and no creatures can ever do it in less than 210 years scientists calculate. The Theory of Relativity show that a spaceship's mass increases at an accelerating rate until it becomes infinite at the speed of light, so no ship can ever travel near the speed of light. Distances between stars are vast, and it is impossible to make trips between them in less than centuries. "So what now? How can you beat around that bush? Do you believe me now, or are you going to stay close-minded and stubborn and not see the evidence that is so obvious before you?" You have no real evidence, but I have much, so I win this battle of wits easily. People who know real science, e.g. I do that, easily win against gullible people who blindly believe in amateurish hoaxes, e.g. you. Using websites that contain only prepostrous "gao pi" does not prove your point. Look further, and you can find more that refute this inane drivel. EDIT: THIS TROLL SENT ME A DUMB HATEFUL E-MAIL THAT PROVES HE IS RANTING HERE, SO I AM REPORTING HIM. HE MIGHT HAVE SENT MORE OF HIS SILLY E-MAILS. HE DOES NOT WANT AN ANSWER BUT AGREEMENT WITH HIS LAUGHABLE MINDLESS BELIEF IN A CRUDE HOAX. HE IS IN VIOLATION.
Yeah it would be impossible for man to build 3 object's next to eachother - According to your logic no buildings can be built over 3 stories until the crane was made.

What else were the egyptions going to do - go on their PS3's, watch a T.V. - they had the choice of either sitting around or expanding and showing off their empire. They were the only empire throughout arabia and north africa - they had thousands of slave's at their disposal, man power wasn't a problem
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Postby northrup51 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:48 am

It is pretty well known that the ancient egyptians dragged their large stones on sleds, not rollers ( see the sources), and that they got them to high places with ramps. Modern people have done it by hand to demonstrate that it is possible. It is more work than us lazy modern people would want to do but they were not so lazy.
You may assume that anything that was done that you don't know how to do had to have been done by aliens if you like, but that is foolish.
You may interpret the ancient and unfamiliar Egyptian writing and drawing as alien if you like, but that is foolish too.
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Postby carmi » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:50 am

Your facts are fiction, the real facts actually easily contradict all of this crap.

1. The Egyptians used fixed logs of wood and water as lubricant, at least according to their own drawings of the construction process. Not rolling logs of wood. The number of logs that needed replacement with such a technology is just one per 500 stones (according to measurements). Most wood would have been from Lebanon, a bit expensive for using it your way. By reducing the friction with water and burying the logs in the ramp (so they transport the weight force better to the ramp), you can make them last longer. About 7000 logs of wood per year is easily possible with the Egyptian economy.

2. Most stones weighted 2.75 tons, not 20 tons. You said it yourself. A gang of 20 workers, as used by the Egyptians, is able to pull such a stone, even over longer distances. The speed is maybe not high, by enough. 2 million blocks of stone in 25 years equals 220 blocks per day, or 20 blocks per working hour. Modern technology would permit easily 20 times more on such a construction. 200,000 workers had been employed at peak time in two shifts, and divided into 5 gangs of 20,000 men each, even if you assume that only half of the 20,000 had been pulling rocks, this means that 500 blocks had been pulled at a time per gang of workers: Each block could have traveled for one month from quarry to its final location (2500 blocks for 50,000 workers). Experiments even showed a pace of 18 meters per minute was possible on a 1:4 ramp.

Heavier elements need more workers: There is drawing in a tomb of 172 workers pulling a single statue, which would equate to about 25 tons mass. The question is how the 70 ton granite blocks that make the roof structure of the main tomb had been transported. At the same workforce, you would need 500 man pulling one block, which is not impossible, but extremely inefficient.

3. They did not use any cement and that is documented. Many cultures did not use cement until modern times. Also, most cultures did easily go in the

4. The Egyptians had "high-tech" Chariots (better than all contemporary civilizations) already for two centuries when the Great Pyramid was constructed. The wheel was already invented for a long time earlier. Also most early civilizations had easily millions of citizens. Alone the capital of Egypt, Memphis, had 30,000 citizens at the time of the construction, which happened only few kilometers away from Memphis.

5. Even if we still don't know all details of the construction, this does not mean aliens must have done it:

5.1. There are many possible naturalistic explanations for the documented construction, what is only missing is the evidence, which explanation remains eventually the only one.

5.2. The irony is also strong: Aliens travel for light years with technology that would still be modern today and all they do is aiding some Egyptians stacking blocks of rock for 25 years, and that in a very slow and lazy way.
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Postby gilburt56 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:59 am

It's insulting to the Egyptians to suggest that they weren't smart enough to build the pyramids.

Anybody who's ever been to the pyramids can tell you that they were clearly made by rough tools, especially if you've been inside. Aliens who were able to travel between the stars would have a better way of cutting rocks than with hand-tools. You can literally see the chisel marks on all the blocks - don't you think aliens would use a laser or a saw of some sort?

Rock seems like a very primitive and inefficient building material for a civilization that has mastered interstellar flight. Wouldn't they use some composite material - maybe titanium or aluminum? Carbon fiber? Why didn't they put in an elevator or some lights? There's just very dark tunnels with primitive looking rocks inside.

The thing is, we KNOW how the pyramids were built and we know where the quarries are where they got the stone from. In some of the quarries there are obelisks and blocks that they started to cut out but didn't finish for some reason, so we can see how they did it.

More importantly, why would another civilization put in the effort to fly here just so they could build a pile of rocks? For what? They came to build the rocks and then just disappeared? It seems like it's not worth the investment to build a tourist attraction on another planet, only to fly away and abandon it.
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