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Try reading the book, "stop your divorce."

Edit: Kids do NOT adjust to divorce, these people are insane, don't listen to them. They do not speak from experience.

You guys were miserable before you got together..........Another dysfunctional family.

Try reading the book, "stop your divorce."

Edit: Kids do NOT adjust to divorce, these people are insane, don't listen to them. They do not speak from experience.

You guys were miserable before you got together..........Another dysfunctional family.

Separated is married with problems. I never recommend people to separate. I say either work it out or get the divorce. Reason is during the "separation period" people ACT single and they are not. This is not good for anyone or any unsuspecting person who gets interested in you.....too bad for them. Your not available but act and think you are. So get the divorce. I say this with all certainty in how you described her: Selfish with lying tendencies, never had job - again very selfish in my book. In marriage it's a partnership with the wife needing to hold up her end of the financial burden of the household. She sat back and didn't help. yes she popped out babies but this woman had no intention of having your back. She didn't look out for you only herself.

With no trust the marriage is doomed. Trust is a key thing and it doesn't exist here.

Get the divorce but know now I hate to say it but she will go after alimony and probably get it. Due to her lazy *** and not working the judge will see she qualifies for it along with child support. So your about to have your whole income tore apart due to this woman. I'm sorry. Truly.

you just said it, it's not healthy for the kids and you
you are already separated anyway
divorce won't be so different although it could take more money and time

she is not interested in working things out anyway
it takes 2 to work it out, otherwise what's the point?

you just said it, it's not healthy for the kids and you
you are already separated anyway
divorce won't be so different although it could take more money and time

she is not interested in working things out anyway
it takes 2 to work it out, otherwise what's the point?

You problem seems to be based on a simple misunderstanding:
Hell is inescapable and permanent. This situation is NEITHER inescapable nor permanent. THIS IS NOT HELL!!!

So stop the melodramatic speeches, and get your sh-t together. This is a bad situation, but it is fixable.

Since you have questions about getting a divorce, then there must be some love left in you for this woman. This means that your BEST ACTION is counseling. Counseling make things worse ONLY when BOTH partners refuse to do the work required. The counselor can do nothing with the full cooperation of BOTH of you.

If you are SURE there is no love left in you, then why are you asking if you should remain in "a bad situation"? (NOT IN HELL!) FIle for divorce.

If the children were removed because of HER bad guardianship, then ask your lawyer to petition the court that YOU get full custody, and she gets ONLY Supervised Visitation. BAck this up with the court order to place the children in foster care.